Tuesday 28 October 2008

Antique Fly Fishing Equipment -Gut Leaders

Part of the enjoyment in fly fishing is a study of the traditions of the craft. Most of us have read the classics of angling literature and day dreamed about the good old days when North America was an angler’s paradise. I still occasionally gear up a bamboo rod with an antique reel and un-tapered, braided fly line.
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There is a sense of peace and serenity that comes from placing an old fashioned fly pattern in front of a rising trout. The grace of the relaxed, slow, stroke required of natural materials when casting is good for the soul in some way.

About the only component of an antique kit that I have never been able to find is an original gut leader. I am not sure that many of us even know any more what a gut leader is.

Gut leaders are actually strands of pure silk. The process used in their manufacture was amazing. Silk comes from a caterpillar called a silk worm. It secretes a fluid from long, bag-like organs in its abdomen called “guts” which it uses to spin its cocoon.

To make a gut leader was a highly skilled and messy business. The silk worm was dropped into a pickling solution just before it began spinning its cocoon. The worm was then torn open by hand and the fluid in its silk making organs was pulled like taffy, into two thick threads. These threads hardened as soon as they were removed from the gut.

The threads were graded according to thickness and some were “drawn” through holes in metal plates to achieve desired diameters. This is exactly how jewelers “draw” fine wire today. Drawing was the best way to produce the necessary uniformity.


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Because no single strand was very long, there were by necessity several knots in each leader. We still use the same Blood Knots today when building special purpose leaders by hand from different components.

Silk worm gut is brittle when dry and had to be soaked in water or glycerin before fishing. It also broke down over time.
One can picture the oft repeated heartbreak of trying to get one more trip out of an old, expensive leader only to finally get a strike from the king of the pool.
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I am betting even purists like Halford or old George La Branche would have gladly used Maxima.

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10 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have some (4 packages) antique japanese (Greenwater) knotless gut fishing line in the original package, never opened. what should i do with it??? its too old to use and really its just way too much hassle also, but too cool to throw away.

William

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21 April 2010 at 07:52  
Blogger Steve Dobson said...

Hello William;

I'd love to have it and assume that other fly fisherman who collect old-time gear would too. You could try putting it on EBay.

Cheers,
Steve

22 April 2010 at 01:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am looking for information on a L + C Imperial #1 - 203, three piece bamboo fly rod with extra tip, cloth case and luggage case.

5 November 2010 at 22:05  
Blogger Steve Dobson said...

Hello,
I'm wildly guessing that it is a rod made by Heddon and sold by Lyon and Colson, a mail order company like Herter's used to be. If that is the case it is a nice little outfit but not worth a fortune.

An eight footer in excellent condition would be worth between 300 and 400 bucks as a guess. Yours sounds like a premium package so could be easily worth another couple of hundred.

If I had it, I would fish with it rather than keep it as a wall hanger but you should definitely have someone qualified look at it to make sure it is not worth double or triple my rough guess.

Let me know what you find out.

Cheers,
Steve

7 November 2010 at 19:57  
Blogger mastifftrout said...

Hi fishers. I recently bought an antique tackle box with spin and fly gear in it. Does anyone know anything about Alllcocks Marvel Leader No 8056, single selected spanish gut. Made by Allcocks of Redditch England, still on the card, and in the pack, 2 of Zenith english gut leader No 113B, 2 yards in length 2 Ex loops, also made by Allcocks of Redditch, England. I also got still on the carda few AA Trout Flies of Redditch England. Any info on them, or approx value would be nice to know. Thx and tight lines. Paul L Calgary Canada

13 November 2010 at 21:39  
Blogger Steve Dobson said...

Hello Paul;

Sounds like interesting stuff.

I've only ever bought old leaders when found ultra cheap at a yard sale or stumbled upon some other way, so don't really know a fair market value for them.

The flies may be very worthwhile to a collector especially if the cards are in pristine condition.
The best thing to do is watch a few on-line auction sites for similar items and that should give you a feel for whether you are sitting on a treasure or not.

If I get any info by email I'll post it here. Otherwise, if anyone else has any insight to share with Paul they can just post it here in the comments section.

Cheers,
Steve

13 November 2010 at 22:28  
Blogger mastifftrout said...

Thanks Steve, and thanks to anyone with info.I like the fast response Steve, so good on you. PL

13 November 2010 at 22:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a 3 piece RB Moore "Archer" split can rod. The rod sock reads "Angling Experts". Belfast. Phone 22657. I know it was purchased pre war. It can't have been used much as there is not even a nick to the lacquer. An extensive internet search turned up nothing.
Along with the rod came three brand new, in package, and serviceable gut leaders from the Canada Needle & Fishing Tackle Co. Toronto,(#1439), which was easy for me to trace.
Included was a real silk double taper silk line.(not sure of the weight). Also a Hardy Sunbeam Duplicated Mark II with the early style Telephone latch. Real maker's W.S (Wilf Sinton) is stamped inside. It came with the original leather reel case.
All the above were purchased by a Canadian pilot, posted overseas, on Pall Mall in '37.

Any help with info on the rod would be helpful. I would like to sell to someone who would keep the package intact. Thank-you for your attention. Dave, Canada.

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